For the New York Times Opinion podcast Sway, I produced this conversation between Kara Swisher and Dara Khosrowshahi, the CEO of Uber. During the pandemic, Uber’s ride-hailing revenue sagged. But Uber Eats, its restaurant delivery service, soared. What does he say to restaurant owners who claim Uber’s fees are ruining their business? You can listen here or wherever you get podcasts.